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  PotD Comments disabled until further notice - Picture of the Day
  Posted by: TeraByte on 10-28-2003 @ 06:16
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A lot of BCFiles users have been abusing every single PotD that is posted, and the people who post them. Since we cannot find and ban the troublemakers, the PotD comments have been disabled until further notice. The staff are getting tired of editing people's abusive posts and having to focus most of their energy into moderating the PotD comments. If certain users (you know who you are) continue to cause disruptions on the site, they will recieve a lifelong ban. Our apologies to the constructve people who want to coment on PotDs.

NOTE: I will not disable comments for this news post, but any flaming, spamming, swearing, etc. will result in the comments being disabled.



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 #1 - Good Decision there.... - 10-28-2003 at 07:14
BoomAM
Joined: February 18th, 2003
Posts: 64
Ive noticed that for a while people complain about POTDs. They complain about pathetic little things like star dust, and post comments like "its not cannon that...", or complain about low res, or lack of AA/AF. You cant penilise someone for not being able to do higher res`s or not having AA/AF on. I for one, and no doubt many others, stopped posting in POTD due to all the flaming and complaining going on.
Good decision on the Mods part there.
Keep up the good work.

 #2 - Hoping for enlightenment... - 10-28-2003 at 07:21
rodesnet
From: (Cleveland, Ohio)
Joined: August 26th, 2002
Posts: 166
I thoroughly enjoy ALL of the POTD's that have been posted. I totally agree with the "Trek Only" rule as well.

Each of us that have contibuted to the Picture of the day have spent some time doing something we each enjoy. ( Cry even if our wise staff at FliesNetwork has still not seen fit to post any of my own Cry ). Although I think that constructive critisism is important, some of the posts have been unnecessarily cruel at times.

Also, a question to the webmaster: Did we abandon the rule of "screen shots only"? alot of the recent POTD's seem to be other than in-game shots!

In conclusion, BC FIles is a terrific resource for those of us that love this game and the community that has been created around it. Let's not ruin this for everyone that hasn't been rude to the POTD posters.

Thanks Everyone!

 #3 - I just join..... - 10-28-2003 at 07:23
chuckl3h0und
From:
Joined: October 28th, 2003
Posts: 60
..and they disable POTD posting. Oh well i've got a good Excelsior submitted, so i guess i should be glad people wont be pointing out every single area. I've gotta admit that making a screenie with several ships is a complex task and something a lot of people overlook.

If you want an excellent example of what these replies have turned into, just point your browser to the official UT2003 INA boards.

 #4 - Hm. - 10-28-2003 at 07:23
ThunderchiId
Joined: August 24th, 2002
Posts: 528
The reason people complain is because the PoTDs that have been being posted as of late are below the quality that we are used to. I am one of them. I used to look forward to seeing new PoTDs posted..now I just shudder when I see horribly edited pictures, pictures with stock EVERYTHING, pictures with no glows, pictures that have the HUD..things that are so uncreative and plain boring that they're not even worth looking at..Surely there have to be better ones. When I submit a picture, it says there are hundreds waiting to be viewed..Going to tell me none of those 'hundreds' are better then what we've been seeing recently? When you start posting quality pictures again, the complaints will stop.

We have been employed to post files, not to choose the 2 or so good PotD's out of the 270 or so waiting. The complaints will stop immediately, or the offender will recieve a consolation prize for being rude: a ban. ~Admin

 #5 - Trek Only. - 10-28-2003 at 07:27
ThunderchiId
Joined: August 24th, 2002
Posts: 528
No. That's wrong. The name of the site is 'Bridge Commander Files'..Not 'Star Trek ONLY Bridge Commander Files'. A PoTD should be able to contain anything available for Bridge Commander, and not just Trek only stuff. That's close-minded and just dumb. I'm all for more pictures of Star Wars, Babylon 5, and any other genre..

The ONLY stipulations hould be editing..I can see small little touch-ups that are invisable or very, very hard to see..but the blatent cut and pastes need to stop.

 #6 - stuff - 10-28-2003 at 08:27
Mesh
Joined: June 22nd, 2003
Posts: 117
Poeple have a right of free speech. It's in the constitution. They should be able to tell whats wrong with something without being punished for it. Who cares if someone whines about the POTD. The poeple who whine just have high expectations for these kind of things. We cannot change that. Guys who submit obvious edited pics
should be the ones penalized.

Why should we be punished for speaking our minds? Really? If the poeple who sumbit POTD's are sensitive about their feelings and know about the kind of poeple who make comments, then they should not submit. It's the submitters who are the problem, not us.

And for the first time I can remember, I agree with Thunderchild. The editing needs to stop.

You are entitled to speak your mind, just keep it civil and without cussing, swearing, flaming, etc. That is what we are concerned about, not the goddamn pics. ~Admin

 #7 - Hey - 10-28-2003 at 08:55
Sabrewings
Joined: December 30th, 2002
Posts: 340
I'm thoroughly offended!! The sole comment in today's PotD thread (which I actually ENJOY today's, but I can't comment on it) said something about us sending in some good ones. So, are you saying the 20 or so I sent in already aren't good? That's offensive, and I resent it.

 #8 - 10-28-2003 at 09:17
aa1
Joined: September 8th, 2003
Posts: 156
hey listen if the potd officer feels that the system

is being abused, she / he has the right and

auteriszation to disable the comment posting

fasilaty, read this and I quote "The high interactivity of this site should be considered a luxury, not a right. If you cannot follow these simple rules, you can and will be banned from the comments, site or entire network for any period of time.
Now enjoy yourself and behave!"

it is abvois that terabyte feels that the system has been abused so she / he has desiced to stop
comment posting

and all i have to say is

Terabyte : you'r just right

 #9 - He is right... - 10-28-2003 at 09:23
Sabrewings
Joined: December 30th, 2002
Posts: 340
I agree we were carrying the discussion way too far. The disabled comments will give us all time to cool our jets. But I find his comment rude. That's all. Don't worry, I'm still all smiles over here big grin

 #10 - A suggestion.... - 10-28-2003 at 09:51
USS_Premonition
From: (Clearfield, Utah)
Joined: July 6th, 2003
Posts: 122
Perhaps the rating system should stay in place. This way no abusive comments will be made, but people can still rate it.

 #11 - Right on... - 10-28-2003 at 10:17
jcarney
Joined: April 9th, 2003
Posts: 18
I have to say that I've been disgusted at times by the cruelty displayed by some members and guests of this site in the POTD section. Saying someone's picture just sucks or is sh** is abusive and not constructive at all. If you don't like the pic, just give it a low rating and move the heck on with your life!

On the other hand, constructive criticism should never be discouraged. I have made a couple of posts on mods that I thought could be improved...but I was always respectful (because I sure don't have the ability that a great many of you modders out there have!) and just tried to say, "I don't like this because... Here's how I would improve it if I could..." Posts with that tone may just give the author some good creative ideas which he/she can use to improve future mods or POTDs.

I agree with some of the above posts that a cooling off period with no posts is in order! Two Thumbs Up!

One more thing...I think we all need to take a lesson from MST3K and, "repeat to ourselves it's just a game...and we really should relax!"

--J

 #12 - I totally understand the moderators decision - 10-28-2003 at 10:35
serverandenforcer
From:
Joined: March 5th, 2003
Posts: 275
This site is operated by a private source. Even though it is open to the public, it is not to the right of the public to use freely. The same ideology applies with the work that I do for a living. It's funny how people instantly think that since they have the "freedome of speach," they can say whatever they want wherever they are. That is so not true, and it's very ignorant. If you look at the number of the Potds that have been submitted, they range into the many hundres. Sure, it might say 100 or 200 when you submitted yours in, but who is to say that number hasn't grown since you submitted the pic. Even I have submited some stuff in, but I don't instantly expect it to get posted, nor am I upset when I feel that something of lower quality got sent in. However, I respect the picture that was posted. It's better than not having anything at all. I doubt that terabyte and the rest of the staff have all the time on their hands to sift through all the stuff that has been submitted. Remember, this is their own personal time that they are spending for our enjoyment. I appreciate the hard work that they do, and I totally respect them for that. Rock on guys!

 #13 - Criticism != Abuse - 10-28-2003 at 11:18
prisoner881
Joined: October 7th, 2002
Posts: 15
Very unconstructive. Post deleted. ~Admin

 #14 - ''This is not a democracy!!!'' - 10-28-2003 at 13:59
ASDB_J
Joined: December 21st, 2002
Posts: 57
''blah blah blah blah blah . . . .''

LOL, I just find this so interesting a tangent to watch - the cooling down is a good idea, but you can't expect jerks to not be jerks after taking a forced break. We get lurkers, miscreants, haters, honest joes, experts, artists, and those whose stuff don't stink (or so dey t'ink), and the same goes in the real world.

People are people, no more no less.

...and as stated above, if a pic actually isn't good, then it isn't good. We can try to be polite, we can even patronize, but to paraphrase The Architect, "There are levels of crappiness we are prepared to accept..."

big grin

 #15 - 10-28-2003 at 15:23
Trunks999
From:
Joined: September 30th, 2002
Posts: 162
see if you all of you could just do this in the potd besides posting very rude are crud commants this would have never happen.

 #16 - If only - 10-28-2003 at 19:20
chuckl3h0und
From:
Joined: October 28th, 2003
Posts: 60
The fact is that the majority of people who complain seems to have risen not as a factor of the quality of the pictures, but really as part of a me too factor.

Too many times, you'll see one person being the catalyst to complaints, and as such they begin the whole complaints thing. What really needs to happen is for everyone to be limited to one reply, and or a maximum reply length of about 100 words, thus meaning we either get threads full of 1337 speak (in which case only the spammers and slaggers can understand anyways), or people try to limit their responses.

Sadly the only way to punish the bad is to do the same to the good.

 #17 - im dissapointed - 10-28-2003 at 21:54
Apocalypse7000
From: (Melbourne florida)
Joined: May 22nd, 2003
Posts: 10
yes people make bad comments but the admins da*n well know that people are expressing their mind.

if i see a royally crappy picture im going to say what id say if i saw a really crappy peice of art.

id say "THATS SHI*."

thats my opinion and i have my right to it

yes youi can shut down comments and yes letting ppl calm down is a good idea but people will express their opinion the way they know best

my 0.02 cents

 #18 - Check this out, folks - 10-28-2003 at 23:34
vorlon3
Joined: September 16th, 2002
Posts: 142
It seems that the boys and girls at the bcfiles staff has placed a STOP sign on POTD section. Well...an't that just sad. Perhaps "Picture of the Day" should stay as picture of the day w / o any comments section considering how hard it is to decide if the pic submitted is good enough to be posted or not. I totally agree with THUNDERCHILD. This is a BCFILES.COM site NOT TREK ONLY. Star trek ISN"T the only scfi out there, you know. Talk about rude comments, I was just at the BCU website and I believed one of YOUR OWN STAFF made a rude comment about a individuals idea about using the latest ATP on the schiemtar(I can't spell) to cause it to raise the wing tips from the scene from ST:Nemesis. At least that person came up with the idea, which I though it was good. And now the POTD comments section on bcfiles.com is now disabled? It seemed that the issue was out of control for a long time and I knew sooner or later this was going to happen. Oh, well....back to posting comments on BCU

 #19 - Mouths wide open, Eyes wide shut... - 10-29-2003 at 01:01
rodesnet
From: (Cleveland, Ohio)
Joined: August 26th, 2002
Posts: 166
RE: Trek Only.

Did anyone notice the logo at the top of this screen that read "STAR TREK : BRIDGE COMMANDER".

I looked twice to make certain it did say that.

Those of you that have said "Trek isn't the only sci-fi out there" are absolutely correct, but aren't there wabsites devoted to those genres as well?

RE: Comments

Has your girlfriend or wife ever asked you if the particular dress they had on was attractive? How many of us would speak there mind if they thought it made them look fat or ugly?...probably not many. If you don't like the picture, how about a low rating and a comment of "Nice try", or maybe a suggestion about how to improve in the future.

ALSO, remember this...BCFIles gets hundreds of POTD submissions...if you are slandering the work of the ones that actually got posted, imagine how bad the pictures must have been that didn't even get posted! In the end, your "Freedom of Speech" arguement is just that, and arguement, and one that you can't win...as it's not up to us (the members) as to how this site is used.

Let's just stop bickering like little children!

Roll Eyes (sarcastic)

 #20 - I also agree with Thunderchild - 10-29-2003 at 01:27
Borg_Drone
Joined: August 22nd, 2002
Posts: 1598
After a while with high quality shots you get used to the high quality, nothing weird there. But then an ultra low quality pic gets posted coz its supposed to be "funny" or something else and it gets bashed like hell. That is to be expected.

The potd quality standards should rise and not be very high a week and then lots of low quality ones get postedthe next week.

And to all of you that nag about that some ppl dont have AA or can run in high resolution...well who cares? There are ppl that have AA and high resolution, those need to submit pics and not those that have like 800x600 with some low quality settings and that on top of that try to cut&paste to improve the shot.

Why should pics of poor quality get posted? Those are the biggest flaw with potd in my opinion, those get alot of flaming and insults.
Solution: Stop putting up shots that are low quality and the flaming will be reduced alot (it wont stop but it will be more mild big grin )

Like I have explained, the interactivity of this site is not anyone's right. It is a priviledge, one that we will take away should the need arise. ~Admin

 #21 - 10-29-2003 at 02:20
aa1
Joined: September 8th, 2003
Posts: 156
if the fn sites don't have rules and regs they would

just go to the dogs,

sex would be talked about

raceisism again't other people

swearing will be comen place

liks to illigeal programs would be posted and

the forces on the net would come down on

pro-fillers like a ton of briks

the rules are not only there to protect pro-fillers

hyde but also our selfs i am sure there are people

who come here that under 16 or even 12

and they need to be protected as well as any of

us the rules are there for a reason

 #22 - just an idea - 10-29-2003 at 03:07
chuckl3h0und
From:
Joined: October 28th, 2003
Posts: 60
why not have a picture of the week instead (since thats the way it seems to be going), but instead of the admin choosing one, they release thumbnails of 5 of what they consider the best submissions, then people vote on the one they would most like to see. The most votes is the new POTW.

Two problems i can see with this;

1) More work for the admins, which is exactly what this new system is designed to cut down on.
2) The possiblity of cheating.
3) Moaning if someone doesnt get their picture in.

However, the benefits are that if somebody doesnt get their picture in, its not the fault of the admins, its the community.
Essentially its like saying to the people that complain about picture selection "Well then you choose".

Just my tuppence worth

 #23 - 10-29-2003 at 03:15
jdiplock
From:
Joined: April 18th, 2003
Posts: 37
I think that this is a bad thing that the POTD comments have been band, but i do respect the decision of the comment moderators

 #24 - 10-29-2003 at 03:18
Seperoth
Joined: April 16th, 2003
Posts: 69
Ide say just Deal with it I mean come on Ive seen people just tear down someone for a little bit of a problem ":Look the edges are blured:" Hang him!
Is Usally how it goes I agree it needs to stop and they can do what ever they want they could even post a site wide comment ban YOu people get mad if the Admins Dont do something then you get all like a little kid crying his eyes out once you find out you cant bash someones POTD
Yes I admit theirs been some really bad ones andedit ones
but you can encourage em ?> after you tell them its sucks?
So I say DEAL WITH IT and let it ride
Also to #6 Grow up its a privetly owned site rules are what ever they want them to be they have the right to change the rules as they see fit

And to #18 This site Says Startrek Bridge Commander last time i Checked
so POTD whould go with what ever is taken from in game NOT Scifi Concept Art if you want that check out scifi art.


Have a nice dayBeer! Beer!

 #25 - Trek Only? - 10-29-2003 at 04:29
ashtaron
Joined: February 15th, 2003
Posts: 40
So the theory of "Trek Only" is to bar other BC Mods who happen to be something other than Trek canon from becoming PotD's? Preposterous. If it's a BC Mod, then it should be used. END OF STORY.

 #26 - 10-29-2003 at 06:19
TeraByte
Joined: November 3rd, 2002
Posts: 112
Enough! This decision has been made for a reason. The staff reserve the right to disable anything on the site at any time. Just be thankful that you were all warned in advance.

As for non-Trek pics, they will continue to be posted if they are related to, or in Bridge Commander. Have I made myself clear?

 #27 - I think You just want to Have an Argument - 11-01-2003 at 12:09
vanderslice
From: (Lincoln, Nebraska)
Joined: October 26th, 2003
Posts: 4
This is all a ripple in the pond and yet all of you continue to bark at each other like dogs. Have any of you got any idea how stupid the whole thing is (I guess not). You should all find more important and itruging(ooops) issues to argue about. Whats with the Immature people using "inapropriate" language I think it's all to get attention which they did. I agree with Banning them off the site forever. Though it depends how much they abused the comments.

 #28 - 11-01-2003 at 18:35
Nateanite
From: (Minnesota)
Joined: December 15th, 2002
Posts: 235
Well, this should make my job a bit easier. Good choice.

 #29 - Uhh I Feel a little guilty - 11-01-2003 at 19:55
DisturbedTeen
From: (Russellville)
Joined: July 26th, 2003
Posts: 42
frown i feel a little guilty now for somthing that i did so im gonna fess up to it.... on page 11 of the potd archives i went to a screen shot called a day at deep space nine and wrote a few nasty posts to the staff so if you feel the need to ban me now i completely understand...

my greatest apologys
disturbedteenCryCry

 #30 - Um...two points, #19 - 11-05-2003 at 17:00
Gil_Dagor
Joined: September 23rd, 2003
Posts: 67
I'm rather reluctant to post on this thread. I feel like I'm pouring gasoline on a flame. (Yipe!)

First of all, Rodesnet, I agree with you on the comments. It's unfortunate that the comments have been shut down, but if there's a lot of flaming going on, what else can the staff do? I dunno about the rest of you, but I don't want to have to wade through pages of profanity to see the useful or entertaining comments. That kind of thing turns the PotD page into the online equivalent of an abandoned subway station with grafitti on the walls; no one wants to go there. Too bad there isn't some kind of filter program that can be used on the comments.
Second of all, you're right that there are sites to those other genres; however, some people (like me) don't want those other genres. We basically want to play a game in which people can command cruisers from the bridge. Bridge Commander does this perfectly, and this site is one of the - scratch that. It is THE best "Bridge Commander Resource" site out there (it is called this right up there at the top, and it's spot on). Simply put, this site's function is to provide a high-quality archive for any "Bridge Commander files"; which, as Thunderchild pointed out, is the site's name. Shucks, if people can add files putting the crew in mini-skirts, they can definately add new ships to the game. (Putting the female crew in mini-skirts, that is. I REALLY don't want to see Felix in a miniskirt; yuck!) The default, unmodified game is Star Trek, but anyone is free to modify it to whatever sci-fi universe they wish. And if, as they're playing their modified version, something cool appears, then they might want to show it to others. I must confess a lack of any understanding as to why this annoys some people. The pictures are not, usually, commentary on the value of different sci-fi universes; they're just a place to show off something nifty, or to recreate a scene from a movie/show.

My deepest apologies to the staff if adding this comment causes any trouble, although I've gone over it pretty carefully, and I don't see anything offensive. Still, better apologize up front.wink

Oh, BTW, does number 26's remark mean that the ban on non-Trek PotD's has been lifted?



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