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Total comments: 30 | Last comment: 11-05-2003 at 17:00
Joined: February 18th, 2003
|Ive noticed that for a while people complain about POTDs. They complain about pathetic little things like star dust, and post comments like "its not cannon that...", or complain about low res, or lack of AA/AF. You cant penilise someone for not being able to do higher res`s or not having AA/AF on. I for one, and no doubt many others, stopped posting in POTD due to all the flaming and complaining going on. |
Good decision on the Mods part there.
Keep up the good work.
From: (Cleveland, Ohio)
Joined: August 26th, 2002
|I thoroughly enjoy ALL of the POTD's that have been posted. I totally agree with the "Trek Only" rule as well. |
Each of us that have contibuted to the Picture of the day have spent some time doing something we each enjoy. ( even if our wise staff at FliesNetwork has still not seen fit to post any of my own ). Although I think that constructive critisism is important, some of the posts have been unnecessarily cruel at times.
Also, a question to the webmaster: Did we abandon the rule of "screen shots only"? alot of the recent POTD's seem to be other than in-game shots!
In conclusion, BC FIles is a terrific resource for those of us that love this game and the community that has been created around it. Let's not ruin this for everyone that hasn't been rude to the POTD posters.
Joined: October 28th, 2003
|..and they disable POTD posting. Oh well i've got a good Excelsior submitted, so i guess i should be glad people wont be pointing out every single area. I've gotta admit that making a screenie with several ships is a complex task and something a lot of people overlook. |
If you want an excellent example of what these replies have turned into, just point your browser to the official UT2003 INA boards.
Joined: August 24th, 2002
|The reason people complain is because the PoTDs that have been being posted as of late are below the quality that we are used to. I am one of them. I used to look forward to seeing new PoTDs posted..now I just shudder when I see horribly edited pictures, pictures with stock EVERYTHING, pictures with no glows, pictures that have the HUD..things that are so uncreative and plain boring that they're not even worth looking at..Surely there have to be better ones. When I submit a picture, it says there are hundreds waiting to be viewed..Going to tell me none of those 'hundreds' are better then what we've been seeing recently? When you start posting quality pictures again, the complaints will stop. |
We have been employed to post files, not to choose the 2 or so good PotD's out of the 270 or so waiting. The complaints will stop immediately, or the offender will recieve a consolation prize for being rude: a ban. ~Admin
Joined: August 24th, 2002
|No. That's wrong. The name of the site is 'Bridge Commander Files'..Not 'Star Trek ONLY Bridge Commander Files'. A PoTD should be able to contain anything available for Bridge Commander, and not just Trek only stuff. That's close-minded and just dumb. I'm all for more pictures of Star Wars, Babylon 5, and any other genre.. |
The ONLY stipulations hould be editing..I can see small little touch-ups that are invisable or very, very hard to see..but the blatent cut and pastes need to stop.
Joined: June 22nd, 2003
|Poeple have a right of free speech. It's in the constitution. They should be able to tell whats wrong with something without being punished for it. Who cares if someone whines about the POTD. The poeple who whine just have high expectations for these kind of things. We cannot change that. Guys who submit obvious edited pics |
should be the ones penalized.
Why should we be punished for speaking our minds? Really? If the poeple who sumbit POTD's are sensitive about their feelings and know about the kind of poeple who make comments, then they should not submit. It's the submitters who are the problem, not us.
And for the first time I can remember, I agree with Thunderchild. The editing needs to stop.
You are entitled to speak your mind, just keep it civil and without cussing, swearing, flaming, etc. That is what we are concerned about, not the goddamn pics. ~Admin
Joined: December 30th, 2002
|I'm thoroughly offended!! The sole comment in today's PotD thread (which I actually ENJOY today's, but I can't comment on it) said something about us sending in some good ones. So, are you saying the 20 or so I sent in already aren't good? That's offensive, and I resent it. |
Joined: September 8th, 2003
|hey listen if the potd officer feels that the system |
is being abused, she / he has the right and
auteriszation to disable the comment posting
fasilaty, read this and I quote "The high interactivity of this site should be considered a luxury, not a right. If you cannot follow these simple rules, you can and will be banned from the comments, site or entire network for any period of time.
Now enjoy yourself and behave!"
it is abvois that terabyte feels that the system has been abused so she / he has desiced to stop
and all i have to say is
Terabyte : you'r just right
Joined: December 30th, 2002
|I agree we were carrying the discussion way too far. The disabled comments will give us all time to cool our jets. But I find his comment rude. That's all. Don't worry, I'm still all smiles over here |
From: (Clearfield, Utah)
Joined: July 6th, 2003
|Perhaps the rating system should stay in place. This way no abusive comments will be made, but people can still rate it. |
Joined: April 9th, 2003
|I have to say that I've been disgusted at times by the cruelty displayed by some members and guests of this site in the POTD section. Saying someone's picture just sucks or is sh** is abusive and not constructive at all. If you don't like the pic, just give it a low rating and move the heck on with your life! |
On the other hand, constructive criticism should never be discouraged. I have made a couple of posts on mods that I thought could be improved...but I was always respectful (because I sure don't have the ability that a great many of you modders out there have!) and just tried to say, "I don't like this because... Here's how I would improve it if I could..." Posts with that tone may just give the author some good creative ideas which he/she can use to improve future mods or POTDs.
I agree with some of the above posts that a cooling off period with no posts is in order!
One more thing...I think we all need to take a lesson from MST3K and, "repeat to ourselves it's just a game...and we really should relax!"
Joined: March 5th, 2003
|This site is operated by a private source. Even though it is open to the public, it is not to the right of the public to use freely. The same ideology applies with the work that I do for a living. It's funny how people instantly think that since they have the "freedome of speach," they can say whatever they want wherever they are. That is so not true, and it's very ignorant. If you look at the number of the Potds that have been submitted, they range into the many hundres. Sure, it might say 100 or 200 when you submitted yours in, but who is to say that number hasn't grown since you submitted the pic. Even I have submited some stuff in, but I don't instantly expect it to get posted, nor am I upset when I feel that something of lower quality got sent in. However, I respect the picture that was posted. It's better than not having anything at all. I doubt that terabyte and the rest of the staff have all the time on their hands to sift through all the stuff that has been submitted. Remember, this is their own personal time that they are spending for our enjoyment. I appreciate the hard work that they do, and I totally respect them for that. Rock on guys! |
Joined: October 7th, 2002
|Very unconstructive. Post deleted. ~Admin |
Joined: December 21st, 2002
|''blah blah blah blah blah . . . .'' |
LOL, I just find this so interesting a tangent to watch - the cooling down is a good idea, but you can't expect jerks to not be jerks after taking a forced break. We get lurkers, miscreants, haters, honest joes, experts, artists, and those whose stuff don't stink (or so dey t'ink), and the same goes in the real world.
People are people, no more no less.
...and as stated above, if a pic actually isn't good, then it isn't good. We can try to be polite, we can even patronize, but to paraphrase The Architect, "There are levels of crappiness we are prepared to accept..."
Joined: September 30th, 2002
|see if you all of you could just do this in the potd besides posting very rude are crud commants this would have never happen. |
Joined: October 28th, 2003
|The fact is that the majority of people who complain seems to have risen not as a factor of the quality of the pictures, but really as part of a me too factor. |
Too many times, you'll see one person being the catalyst to complaints, and as such they begin the whole complaints thing. What really needs to happen is for everyone to be limited to one reply, and or a maximum reply length of about 100 words, thus meaning we either get threads full of 1337 speak (in which case only the spammers and slaggers can understand anyways), or people try to limit their responses.
Sadly the only way to punish the bad is to do the same to the good.
From: (Melbourne florida)
Joined: May 22nd, 2003
|yes people make bad comments but the admins da*n well know that people are expressing their mind. |
if i see a royally crappy picture im going to say what id say if i saw a really crappy peice of art.
id say "THATS SHI*."
thats my opinion and i have my right to it
yes youi can shut down comments and yes letting ppl calm down is a good idea but people will express their opinion the way they know best
my 0.02 cents
Joined: September 16th, 2002
|It seems that the boys and girls at the bcfiles staff has placed a STOP sign on POTD section. Well...an't that just sad. Perhaps "Picture of the Day" should stay as picture of the day w / o any comments section considering how hard it is to decide if the pic submitted is good enough to be posted or not. I totally agree with THUNDERCHILD. This is a BCFILES.COM site NOT TREK ONLY. Star trek ISN"T the only scfi out there, you know. Talk about rude comments, I was just at the BCU website and I believed one of YOUR OWN STAFF made a rude comment about a individuals idea about using the latest ATP on the schiemtar(I can't spell) to cause it to raise the wing tips from the scene from ST:Nemesis. At least that person came up with the idea, which I though it was good. And now the POTD comments section on bcfiles.com is now disabled? It seemed that the issue was out of control for a long time and I knew sooner or later this was going to happen. Oh, well....back to posting comments on BCU |
From: (Cleveland, Ohio)
Joined: August 26th, 2002
|RE: Trek Only. |
Did anyone notice the logo at the top of this screen that read "STAR TREK : BRIDGE COMMANDER".
I looked twice to make certain it did say that.
Those of you that have said "Trek isn't the only sci-fi out there" are absolutely correct, but aren't there wabsites devoted to those genres as well?
Has your girlfriend or wife ever asked you if the particular dress they had on was attractive? How many of us would speak there mind if they thought it made them look fat or ugly?...probably not many. If you don't like the picture, how about a low rating and a comment of "Nice try", or maybe a suggestion about how to improve in the future.
ALSO, remember this...BCFIles gets hundreds of POTD submissions...if you are slandering the work of the ones that actually got posted, imagine how bad the pictures must have been that didn't even get posted! In the end, your "Freedom of Speech" arguement is just that, and arguement, and one that you can't win...as it's not up to us (the members) as to how this site is used.
Let's just stop bickering like little children!
Joined: August 22nd, 2002
|After a while with high quality shots you get used to the high quality, nothing weird there. But then an ultra low quality pic gets posted coz its supposed to be "funny" or something else and it gets bashed like hell. That is to be expected. |
The potd quality standards should rise and not be very high a week and then lots of low quality ones get postedthe next week.
And to all of you that nag about that some ppl dont have AA or can run in high resolution...well who cares? There are ppl that have AA and high resolution, those need to submit pics and not those that have like 800x600 with some low quality settings and that on top of that try to cut&paste to improve the shot.
Why should pics of poor quality get posted? Those are the biggest flaw with potd in my opinion, those get alot of flaming and insults.
Solution: Stop putting up shots that are low quality and the flaming will be reduced alot (it wont stop but it will be more mild )
Like I have explained, the interactivity of this site is not anyone's right. It is a priviledge, one that we will take away should the need arise. ~Admin
Joined: September 8th, 2003
|if the fn sites don't have rules and regs they would |
just go to the dogs,
sex would be talked about
raceisism again't other people
swearing will be comen place
liks to illigeal programs would be posted and
the forces on the net would come down on
pro-fillers like a ton of briks
the rules are not only there to protect pro-fillers
hyde but also our selfs i am sure there are people
who come here that under 16 or even 12
and they need to be protected as well as any of
us the rules are there for a reason
Joined: October 28th, 2003
|why not have a picture of the week instead (since thats the way it seems to be going), but instead of the admin choosing one, they release thumbnails of 5 of what they consider the best submissions, then people vote on the one they would most like to see. The most votes is the new POTW. |
Two problems i can see with this;
1) More work for the admins, which is exactly what this new system is designed to cut down on.
2) The possiblity of cheating.
3) Moaning if someone doesnt get their picture in.
However, the benefits are that if somebody doesnt get their picture in, its not the fault of the admins, its the community.
Essentially its like saying to the people that complain about picture selection "Well then you choose".
Just my tuppence worth
Joined: April 18th, 2003
|I think that this is a bad thing that the POTD comments have been band, but i do respect the decision of the comment moderators |
Joined: April 16th, 2003
|Ide say just Deal with it I mean come on Ive seen people just tear down someone for a little bit of a problem ":Look the edges are blured:" Hang him! |
Is Usally how it goes I agree it needs to stop and they can do what ever they want they could even post a site wide comment ban YOu people get mad if the Admins Dont do something then you get all like a little kid crying his eyes out once you find out you cant bash someones POTD
Yes I admit theirs been some really bad ones andedit ones
but you can encourage em ?> after you tell them its sucks?
So I say DEAL WITH IT and let it ride
Also to #6 Grow up its a privetly owned site rules are what ever they want them to be they have the right to change the rules as they see fit
And to #18 This site Says Startrek Bridge Commander last time i Checked
so POTD whould go with what ever is taken from in game NOT Scifi Concept Art if you want that check out scifi art.
Have a nice day
Joined: February 15th, 2003
|So the theory of "Trek Only" is to bar other BC Mods who happen to be something other than Trek canon from becoming PotD's? Preposterous. If it's a BC Mod, then it should be used. END OF STORY. |
Joined: November 3rd, 2002
|Enough! This decision has been made for a reason. The staff reserve the right to disable anything on the site at any time. Just be thankful that you were all warned in advance. |
As for non-Trek pics, they will continue to be posted if they are related to, or in Bridge Commander. Have I made myself clear?
From: (Lincoln, Nebraska)
Joined: October 26th, 2003
|This is all a ripple in the pond and yet all of you continue to bark at each other like dogs. Have any of you got any idea how stupid the whole thing is (I guess not). You should all find more important and itruging(ooops) issues to argue about. Whats with the Immature people using "inapropriate" language I think it's all to get attention which they did. I agree with Banning them off the site forever. Though it depends how much they abused the comments. |
Joined: December 15th, 2002
|Well, this should make my job a bit easier. Good choice. |
Joined: July 26th, 2003
| i feel a little guilty now for somthing that i did so im gonna fess up to it.... on page 11 of the potd archives i went to a screen shot called a day at deep space nine and wrote a few nasty posts to the staff so if you feel the need to ban me now i completely understand... |
my greatest apologys
Joined: September 23rd, 2003
|I'm rather reluctant to post on this thread. I feel like I'm pouring gasoline on a flame. (Yipe!) |
First of all, Rodesnet, I agree with you on the comments. It's unfortunate that the comments have been shut down, but if there's a lot of flaming going on, what else can the staff do? I dunno about the rest of you, but I don't want to have to wade through pages of profanity to see the useful or entertaining comments. That kind of thing turns the PotD page into the online equivalent of an abandoned subway station with grafitti on the walls; no one wants to go there. Too bad there isn't some kind of filter program that can be used on the comments.
Second of all, you're right that there are sites to those other genres; however, some people (like me) don't want those other genres. We basically want to play a game in which people can command cruisers from the bridge. Bridge Commander does this perfectly, and this site is one of the - scratch that. It is THE best "Bridge Commander Resource" site out there (it is called this right up there at the top, and it's spot on). Simply put, this site's function is to provide a high-quality archive for any "Bridge Commander files"; which, as Thunderchild pointed out, is the site's name. Shucks, if people can add files putting the crew in mini-skirts, they can definately add new ships to the game. (Putting the female crew in mini-skirts, that is. I REALLY don't want to see Felix in a miniskirt; yuck!) The default, unmodified game is Star Trek, but anyone is free to modify it to whatever sci-fi universe they wish. And if, as they're playing their modified version, something cool appears, then they might want to show it to others. I must confess a lack of any understanding as to why this annoys some people. The pictures are not, usually, commentary on the value of different sci-fi universes; they're just a place to show off something nifty, or to recreate a scene from a movie/show.
My deepest apologies to the staff if adding this comment causes any trouble, although I've gone over it pretty carefully, and I don't see anything offensive. Still, better apologize up front.
Oh, BTW, does number 26's remark mean that the ban on non-Trek PotD's has been lifted?
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